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What people defending AI don't understand, is how much people who dislike AI, dislike AI.

It's not just a casual "uhh I am not a fan of this" stance. It is a full rejection paired with mentally stigmatizing, probably forever, the AI product & the company behind it.

People on the internet have long memory. We all know who did NFTs in the past & we know who is doing AI right now.

Are you really ready to brand yourself & your livelihood with this?

#enshittification #slop #noai #gamedev

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It's not a "oh they don't have beef, I'll take chicken" casual kind of choice!

And even if statistically people who have strong feelings against AI are a minority - it is a minority vocal and stern in their decisions like never seen before!

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place There are different types of AI, one just basically helped create the cure for cancer a couple of days ago. But yes, image and video generation is pretty shitty even when it looks really good. Art is for humans by humans

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place Yes, I am. Society has an incredibly short memory. Remember when we found out the world was run by violent pedophiles and 6 months later we were arguing over who can use which bathroom?

The problem here though is that nobody is willing to have a rational open minded discussion. What you believe is above questioning and at no point are you willing to entertain changing your mind. It's about shouting into the void that you're right and you don't need to consider anyhting else.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place I don't like AI and I get harassed because I am forced to use it for work in order to keep a roof over my head. I'm well aware how much y'all dislike it, because I'm constantly being harassed for just making ends meet.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place

non art for non artists. who wouldn't know art when they see it. perfect. and they pay for it.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place @pheedbackPhil@mastodon.social a dev who built a product we use daily but which has had no updates for ages and is built/dependent on an obsolete ubuntu release (we keep it safely firewalled away for now while assessing our options) has surfaced with renewed zeal and vigor with an entirely new replacement for the abandoned one and it is vibe coded and vibe blogged and it has proved very hard for me to build the enthusiasm to evaluate it.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place I stigmatize, probably forever, even every individual who uses AI without being under duress.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place

I'm sorry, this is just .. not quite correct

why is it my problem if you dislike AI ?

your post sort of reads like a post from K Patel or E Musk: I have a long memory and will not forgive you for violating my rules

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place I'm keeping notes.

I'm not the only one.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place my employer used to trumpet its commitments to reducing carbon emissions and to promote social good things. I remember one announcement years ago about using NFTs to encourage better environmental behaviour, but things like that were rare.

Now we get a daily inspirational email from the HQ about how amazing AI is and no mention of our environmental or social goals, unless they can be enabled through LLMs.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place

We all know who did NFTs in the past

"All"? Always found NFTs ridiculous, yet I cannot name a single person related to NFTs in any capacity.

Are you really ready to brand yourself & your livelihood with this?

Yes. Could go into why but I don't think anybody's opinion would move one bit.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place My experience is the slop skeptics are not only more common the ”entusiasts”, but that this group also has the full picture.

Team anti-slop is perfectly aware of what these machines can and can’t do (
with or without constant handholding).

Team ”enthusiasts” on the other hand do their best to ignore anything related to drive by pull requests, privacy, creators right, environmental impact, labour conditions (labelers), data imperialism, risks of deskiilling, and end user health.

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@hardpenguin13@mastodon.gamedev.place Not just the product and the company, but everyone who personally promoted this shit in any capacity. For me, that includes "Gemini said X". I don't fucking care what it generated, it's not a source of information.

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